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And welcome back to Pastor Plec's podcast.
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I'm your host, pastor Plec, and joining me in studio is none other from the Cody Sparks band, senor Cody Sparks.
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One and only.
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And then also from Wells Branch Community Church, the deacon of care, liz Mitchell.
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Hello, liz, is this your first time on the show?
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No.
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How many times you've been on the show?
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Two, two, okay.
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Is this the second time?
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Yes, okay, all right, so we are very excited.
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Can you tell us what it is exactly you do around here at Wells Branch Community Church?
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All the things Well she does all of the things and that's something you should be excited about.
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If you don't know Liz Mitchell, you should know Liz Mitchell.
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So Liz the Deacon of Care I don't know if you guys know this.
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They have something called the five M's of ministry.
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You've got new moms, you've got medical emergencies, you've got meal trains, you've got mass casualty events, and then you've got memorials.
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You've got MASH casualty events and then you've got memorials.
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And then one other one we've just added recently to your title is moving.
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Getting men to move stuff.
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Men with trucks moving.
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So we kind of established your whole ministry with the letter M.
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It feels like a Sesame Street show, so talk to me about that aspect of being there when people are at a point of crisis.
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Well, as we were talking about earlier today, it's the first step in evangelism.
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It's bringing the love of God to people who are in need, meeting their needs in that moment of whatever it may be as far as like a life crisis or a life change, or something that they just need help with yeah, and so, um, how long you've been the deacon of care now many moons a long time.
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All right, somebody explain to me the difference between deacon of care and deacon of compassion you know that is a very, very question.
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You see, the deacon of care is really all about caring, whereas the compassion person so caring from the standpoint of project managing care.
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And then the compassion person is the boots on the ground taking said person from their house to a community group, from their house to church, from their house actually organizing the moving team to show up at the house.
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So the M in compassion is moving.
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Moving yeah.
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I just know A-Ron is moving everybody all the time.
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A-Ron is a big-time mover and he is a blessing, and so if you don't know Aaron, you need to know him.
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He is pretty amazing and so, yeah, I highly advocate for the care ministry, which has a deacon of care and the deacon of compassion.
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Okay, we're going to talk about what we got into with our sermon this past Sunday, and we talked about another M word method acting.
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Have you ever heard that term before, liz, before we talked about it?
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Yes, okay, who is the person that you knew that did method acting?
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I would say it was probably a teacher in high school.
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Okay, so you learned this in high school?
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Yes, were you a theater nerd.
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No, I was channel one.
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I was channel one, so that was like bring the news to the school.
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That was me, but I was more of like the video rendering and yeah, okay, fun, go behind the scenes, oh yeah.
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Oh, wow, that's awesome.
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Oh, y'all like film Channel One yeah.
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We just watched Channel One.
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We filmed it.
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We didn't have any of that.
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Yeah, we filmed it and then they showed it.
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Like at every school in Texas.
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No, just our school.
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That's pretty awesome, though, well.
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Yeah, okay, so Little Panther.
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So what we talked about with method acting was that you study the character and their history, you get to know them, the study of that person.
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Then you got to get into their feelings and so you have to have orthodoxy, orthopathy, you have to understand what the right feelings for that character are, because if you're going through your lines and you have like a happy line like they're dead, as opposed to they're dead like it does it, it seems like a weird thing, right, um?
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And so you have to have the right feelings and then finally, you have to orthopraxy, which is like the right action.
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So you've got to move like they move.
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If they had a lamp, you got to have a lamp.
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Okay, now, what I said was is that method acting?
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I actually learned that in seminary and, and one of the things that my professors said is that you need to take this type of mindset with Christ, that you learn right doctrine, you learn right feelings, and I think what's sort of shocking?
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We either do one or two things.
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We say we all our feelings are, we live in our feelings all the time and we're kind of like psychotic feelings, people, or feelings are stupid and don't listen to them at all, and there's actually a right way to feel as a Christian and that has to be trained, just like a method actor needs to train on what the feelings are.
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So, for example, love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, mind, soul and strength.
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That is a feeling and it's also a practice and you could say also, at some degree it is orthodoxy, if you just that's the right thing to do, okay.
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So with that, we talked about how we sort of struggle with changing because we either don't know what Jesus calls us to do we don't it's hard for us to be trained in feelings and then maybe we don't know what to do.
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And so what happens for a lot of Christians?
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We stop with like, I have all the information but there's no life transformation.
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Have you seen that in Christians that you know?
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Of course I mean, you see it, especially with people who are culturally raised in a particular way Right.
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And then they are learning that.
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I see it in myself, actually, that it's not the case Right With God in your life, and learning to change that about yourself or about themselves is a difficult transition.
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How are you so I'm going to pause on that learning?
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to change that about yourself or about themselves is a difficult transition.
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How are you so?
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I'm going to pause on that.
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I want to ask Cody the same question.
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First, cody, growing up as a preacher's kid, did you see people who had a lot of information about the Bible but they didn't see any transformation to their feelings?
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They still maybe operated with wrong feelings or maybe operated with wrong action and it was obvious to you even as a kid.
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Yeah, but like we, talked about in the 90s, more things were kind of like hidden, so people didn't open up and share as much.
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So you would think probably that oh yeah, they're speaking the word and these things, but you're not really knowing what they're doing behind closed doors.
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Almost Right, you know.
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Yeah.
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So opening up wasn't a real deal.
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Yeah, okay so having community like that wasn't.
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So you didn't know what was going on behind the scenes, not really.
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Yeah.
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I think it was like different, because I was talking to my parents about this, about like was talking to my parents about this, about like church hurt and people being upset over the craziest, weirdest things, yeah, and them still loving those people.
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And then eventually they come back around.
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We're like, oh, I was so wrong, right, so, yes, innocent in a way okay, yeah, okay.
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So, liz, let's talk about pre-Christian life.
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When did you become a believer?
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2018.
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2018.
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So six years ago.
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But raised in the church.
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Raised in the church and when did you take a left turn?
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I would probably say it was around my senior year in high school.
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Okay, what was the thing?
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Was there something you're like?
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You know, screw this being a good Christian person?
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No, not in that sense.
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It was more of the church that I was going to at the time.
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It felt as though every sermon was how young people these days are destroying the world.
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Southern Baptist Church, the kids today, the kids today Get off my lawn.
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And I think part of it too was that my friends at the time were also kind of stepping away and life for me then was changing.
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I was 18, in my senior year, so that independence of I can move out, I can make my own decisions was also occurring at the same time, but I didn't feel encouraged by it.
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I didn't feel that there was God's love.
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But looking back now I also know that I didn't understand what the gospel was either, and so I stepped out of that into that independence role and moved out and had a job and was supporting myself before I graduated.
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Okay, oh, you were supporting yourself before you graduated, Mm-hmm.
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Okay, so you moved out before you graduated.
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Yeah, I moved out in the middle of my senior year.
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Like who'd you move in with?
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A boyfriend.
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Oh, nice, okay, yeah before you graduated?
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Yeah, I moved out middle of my senior year, like who'd you move in with a boyfriend?
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oh, nice okay yeah, so like so you're living with your boyfriend.
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Uh, tell me what.
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What we get to in the sermon is that you are what you behold.
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So, for example, heath ledger totally beheld batman back in 2008 or something whatever year it was that that movie came out.
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Uh, and then, like, wouldn't sleep.
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We almost got him to like a psychosis where he truly became the joker and uh, and then his life ended abruptly.
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Did you, would you say that?
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What?
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During that time, what did you behold?
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And would you say that you became that which you beheld?
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Yeah, social butterfly.
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I mean I did whatever I wanted to and was being independent and supporting myself, and so that led to I'm going to go to these parties, I'm going to go out to this place where I know nobody, and I'm going to meet all the people and I'm going to have a great time and we're going to drink and we're going to just do whatever we want to do.
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Okay.
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So that sounds to me like the worst idea ever going to a party that I don't know anybody and just meeting everybody.
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That is not my strength.
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I don't know if you may that would be, I would feel, cody Angst's level right there.
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Weirdly, I have social anxiety.
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You may social anxiety.
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You may not know this.
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Yeah, I definitely could not do that.
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So tell me how you did that.
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Like what was?
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how would you break the ice with people just show up, okay, hello I don't know you, but I'd like to get to know you.
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That's probably okay, but then don't you get stuck, like I mean at parties.
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There's generally a couple weirdos there that you're like you know you just you said, hey, how you doing?
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And then all of a sudden they're telling you their life story and you're like knee deep into it and you can't escape.
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How do you get?
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Out of that um do you just go, like I go to the bathroom or something, and then you just leave, or what yes and no, but I think part of it was was that never a fear?
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that you get stuck.
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Never a fear that you'd get stuck.
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Never a fear that I would get stuck.
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Yeah, and if I was tired of talking to someone, I would tell them I'm going to go talk to this person.
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Wow, what freedom there is in that.
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Okay, but I'm telling you, just, very independent, it didn't matter, I would just go and do With no fear of consequence, no, like.
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Well, that way to go, I don fear of consequence.
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No, like, well, that way to go, okay, yeah, I mean there's some real freedom there, okay, so, so, so did you so during the weekday, weekdays, did you just think about what you'd be doing on the weekend?
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well, once I moved out, it didn't matter what day of the week it was I would go and take my three classes that I had my senior year and would be out by noon, go work and then I would do whatever after oh, wow if people wanted to do something.
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I, yes, I never said no yeah huh, oh, this is fascinating so yeah, okay, so then?
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Uh, so tell me about the party like what?
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Because didn't the parties get old?
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no, not to me, like I just don't get that okay, talk to me a person that if there was no purpose for it, I would be like why am I doing this?
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Like I just had zero tolerance for things that had didn't have an ultimate.
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And maybe this is where adrian would say like I'm so achievement oriented, like that did not get me to a next thing.
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I'd be like I'm not doing that, but for you, that was an end in and of itself, as being at the party was the thing yeah okay.
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So then, um, I mean, how does it?
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Because I'm thinking about like what were you?
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Because I just think about like for me, what I thought about is like I want to be a ranger, and so I thought all the times about I'm gonna be an airborne ranger.
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I'm thinking about like what were you?
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Cause I just think about like for me, what I thought about is like I want to be a ranger and so I thought all the times about I'm going to be an airborne ranger, I'm going to be an airborne ranger.
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And I eventually became an airborne ranger.
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I would literally stare at guys' arms that had their shoulder, had a ranger tab, and I'd be like ranger there, anything like that for you, like where you wanted and maybe this is just achievement-minded person like me I'm like I must achieve, I must achieve competition, win, that kind of thing.
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Well, I think at that time it was finding a job and surviving and supporting myself, and going into the military was something I had thought about, but it was not an option for me and um, so the other part of that was okay.
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Well, how do I support myself but also enjoy what I'm doing?
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And so that partying kind of led to a life of hospitality, so working in hotels where I talk to people all day long, so I'm being social in my job as well as being social after.
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Okay, that's awesome.
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I love that perspective.
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Cody, to you for a second For you.
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What did you behold growing up?
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Athletics, athletics, okay.
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And then that's what you did, that you became right and then you got hurt at some point and then you became a coach.
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And then what shifted it for you?
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from coaching I wasn't sure that's what I really wanted to do, but I mean, I didn't pick up a guitar till I was in college, pretty much basically, basically, and I started doing that and I guess I just slowly, I don't know I guess probably music was always in me, I just never had tapped into it.
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It's in my family, my dad, all of those so I guess I just never really thought about it because I was so and just I knew what I wanted to do athletically and that was all I did.
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And so I guess, slowly but surely, I just kind of made this turn of oh, I can do music a little bit here, and then I started doing it and it just kind of fell into place weirdly, and then that was it like music.
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It was just like music, music, music.
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That's all I think about, all I care about.
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Okay, that's interesting, that's all I think about, all I care about.
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Okay, that's interesting.
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So when you got to Texas country and you're doing, you're on the top ten, you're touring all over, you got like your tour bus and you're traveling all over Texas, was there a point where you're like I finally made it?
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Or was it like Let me ask my wife.
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I don't know, I don't think that I always look back and I'm going, okay, well, we did something.
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Yeah, it was there.
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So it's not like it wasn't successful.
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But it depends how you define success.
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I guess if you would ask her.
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But I mean, obviously I feel like like it.
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This is kind of where I always say, like covet was a blessing in disguise, okay why is that?
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Because it it stopped everything and it made you evaluate.
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That's exactly right yeah, yeah, pretty much.
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And then it was like, oh okay, well, you can do things.
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Were you just sort of like just doing the next thing that was presented?
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responding to like, hey, another invitation.
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I guess I'll say yes to that.
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Another invitation, oh for.
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And do things?
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Were you just sort of like just doing the next thing that was presented, responding to like hey, another invitation.
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I guess I'll say yes to that.
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Another invitation, oh for sure and when, and waiting on like, oh, you're gonna play here, okay, we're going here.
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Oh, we're gonna play here, oh, we're going here, so yeah.
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And then when that shut down, we're like, okay, and on top of that, my wife was.
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We found out she's pregnant in january of 2020.
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Um, and I don't think I found out she was pregnant in January of 2020.
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And I don't think I found out until maybe January, february, like February, mid-february, that she was, and then March happened, and then it all shut down.
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So we had already talked about, okay, going into that, like September, I would like step back a little bit and stay home more, raise the baby more, be there, and then it didn't matter right because this obviously covet happened, so that was just me just saying.
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Oh okay, well, this decision was made for me, so here we go okay, so man, it's a wild thing and I'm getting crazy weird yeah, it is weird.
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I want to go the relational dynamic here because I because when you married jeff you were in still that lifestyle sort of yes so was jeff like you're settling down, or what was jeff?
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before jeff, there was the desire to have a family, and that same person that I had moved out of my home in high school is the same person at that point.
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So it was about 11 years of relationship there, of of no growth, but also the promise of future marriage and children, but then learning that that was actually not the case Wait wait, wait.
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So you were with a guy for 11 years.
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That's a lot of years.
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Well, I mean, there's a couple breaks in between.
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Okay, of course.
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But essentially 11 years, yeah, and he kind of was like, did he put like a carrot out there, like one day we'll get married, yep.
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Yeah.
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And so 30 was approaching and I was realizing that that carrot was just dangling, it was never going to happen.
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And so Jeff came at a time of the separation, a big change in life, of coming out of that toxic relationship that actually kind of broke down what I had been doing in partying.
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So I kind of came back into the partying a little bit when I first met Jeff and because of his personality and how cheerful he was and excitement then, it kind of brought that more to light and so he and I had a little bit more in common.
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And so when we did get married yes, there was that time frame there where we both were very social.
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So then did you, when he came to faith in Christ?
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Did that propel you, or were you both on separate but equal journeys, if that's a way to put?
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that he came after.
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So I had already we had been married for a few years already and I had had these feelings of what's my purpose?
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Like what am I doing?
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Here, and he wasn't ready for a family yet yet, and our lifestyle was very much just socially doing things, smoke a pot, watch movies, doing puzzles, like just things you would do, you know, and, and so I'm vulnerable, honesty hey, listen, I appreciate it.
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Like I can't think of anything worse than smoking pot and doing puzzles, I would just be like banging my head against the wall.
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Puzzles.
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Yes, massive puzzles.
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Yeah, that sounds weird.
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Like a thousand piece puzzles.
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You're just like oh, dude, I see it all coming together, Is that?
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kind of how that was no, no.
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It was just chill.
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We would make food, we would smoke a joint and then we would eat and put a movie on and and do a puzzle in a night or two.
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Like it was just very chill.
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We didn't like we never fought because there was literally nothing to fight about nothing to fight.
