April 22, 2025
Faith Grows at Home

353: Ever wondered what it's really like growing up in a pastor's home? Joined by Pastor Plek and her dad, Holland, almost-nine-year-old Lizzie Greig pulls back the curtain on her family's spiritual life with surprising wisdom and disarming honesty.
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00:05 - Meeting Lizzie Gregg
01:35 - Morning Bible Routines
04:26 - Little Pilgrim's Progress
08:21 - Baptism and Overcoming Tantrums
14:41 - Evening Worship and Family Devotions
27:37 - Helping the Homeless and Future Dreams
44:20 - Growing Up in a Pastor's Home
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And welcome back to Pastor Plex Podcast Special Edition, here with none other than Pastor Holland Gregg from the Eastside.
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Welcome, pastor Holland.
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Hello.
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And then also Lizzie Gregg, member at Eastside Community Church, also my daughter, also Holland's daughter, and we're going to talk about what exactly is going on in the Greg home to produce a child like this.
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So, lizzie, let's talk about what it's like being.
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Are you almost nine or are you nine?
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I'm almost nine.
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Okay, I'm almost nine, okay, so talk to me about being almost nine in the Greg household and talk to me about like how much you guys studied the Bible.
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I don't know, you don't know, you don't know the hours.
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Do you wake up?
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Do you talk about the Bible?
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Yes, when we wake up early, dad reads bible verses to us what bible verse like.
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Does he just open up the bible, or he?
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has a daily journal, like a daily bible, so we read from that, and then yeah, and then also, what else is it?
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we do this devotional is this in the morning?
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no, not dimensional a challenge.
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Is this in the morning?
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No, not devotional A challenge?
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Yes, this is in the morning.
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What time do you wake up?
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10, 11?
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, 9.
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Okay, 10.
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All right, so you wake up about 9 in the morning.
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This is new.
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The sleeping in is really post-time change.
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They haven't adjusted yet.
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That's good.
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That's good.
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Gets your beauty sleep.
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What time do you?
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go to bed?
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Well, I stay up reading the Bible and the Little Pilgrim's Progress.
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Yeah, of course you do.
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And then I just fall asleep, at any time at least.
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Like 7 pm, no 8 pm, no Later, later 9?
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No 10?
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11.
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Like 11.30.
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All right, that makes sense.
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Okay, good, so you're reading books about Jesus Pilgrim's Progress, the Bible.
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Is it like an hour of reading your Bible every night?
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Well, I usually read, like one, two to three chapters of Pilgrim's Progress.
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Can you tell us what Pilgrim's Progress is about?
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Is it like the Pilgrim's Progress Junior, or is it the legit Pilgrim's Progress?
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It's Little Pilgrim's Progress.
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Okay, Little Pilgrim's Progress.
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So it's like a kid's version.
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Okay, the kid's version.
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All right, I was going to say if you were reading the actual Paul Bunyan I'd be like dang, we are way behind.
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All right, go ahead.
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Talk to us about Little Pilgrim's Progress.
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Well, it's an example of the Bible.
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So there's this part where he comes to a cross and he has this like heavy backpack on him.
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He said it's like he said, he's coming to a cross.
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Is he coming to a cross road or is he coming to an actual cross?
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Yeah, cross, okay.
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So he says it's his burden, the little heavy backpack.
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So he comes to the cross and the backpack falls off.
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So that's an example of when you come to Jesus like you don't have, like your burden goes away, or something like that yeah and then yeah goes away, or something like that, yeah and then yeah.
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But then it's like there's like challenges and more examples of god, of the bible and god so who's the main character?
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little christian, little christian.
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And so then he meets different people along the way.
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Who are some of the characters that he meets along the way that either give him problems or help him out?
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well, there's, there's these two cats oh, two cats and they were trying to meet the king too, but they don't.
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They don't really like they wouldn't go to the right way which way they go well, they went a different way.
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Instead of the gate because there was a gate to this little thing that they tell you what path you have to go- yeah.
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And little Christian knew what the path was.
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But they didn't.
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So they took the two wrong roads and they end up suffering.
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Oh.
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So that's what you.
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Little Christian's a bunny, right?
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Yes, oh, he's a bunny, he's an animal.
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Okay, that makes.
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So that's what you Little Christian's a bunny right?
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Yes, oh, he's a bunny.
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All those little animals.
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Okay, that makes sense it's like an animal, not a human Right.
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Okay, so how in your life have you sort of seen yourself as little?
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Christian walking the road to find the king Well, getting baptized.
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Tell me about that.
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We Well, I don't know.
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I just felt like it was walking the path to another step, to jesus yeah so I just felt like little christian when I did that.
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Well, I haven't, I haven't got the book when I got baptized.
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But now I just think back of that and I just feel myself.
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Oh, I love it.
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When did you get baptized?
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Last year.
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Right, yeah, yeah, last year.
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And what was your favorite part about that?
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Well.
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Did you feel any different?
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Was there, like you know, you went into the water.
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You're like, or was it just like?
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This is a cool experience, nice.
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I just I, or was it just like.
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This is a cool experience, nice.
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I just, I don't know.
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Well, it was awesome to be getting baptized and taking another step to jesus, so I really felt proud of myself after that, yeah and yeah, so tell me about how you know most kids that grow up in pastor's homes.
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They haven't really done anything that bad.
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So how did you know that you were a sinner?
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Well, my dad told me Well, and I just know it because I how do you know it?
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Because I sin and I'm not perfect.
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What was the one thing you did wrong?
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I did a lot of stuff, but Like were you not nice to your parents?
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What was the thing that sticks out to you?
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It was like the thing that you knew you needed to change, and then you did, and it changed because you met Jesus.
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I used to do tantrums like massive tantrums.
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Like how big a tantrum are we talking about?
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I will not tell you.
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Well, I'm just curious.
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There's a lot of fans out there that have fans of Pastor Plex podcast dozens, I would say that also have children and they tend to throw tantrums.
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So can we, can you tell us what you're thinking in the middle of a tantrum?
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I don't know what I'm thinking is it just like?
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you're blinded by the anger and you're just like is that kind of it?
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Yeah, kind of okay, so what was you know in?
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In psychological world they call it a trigger, like what triggered you, what set you off to like lose your mind?
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um well, I don't know, I'm just, I'm very sensitive, so sometimes it just hits me and I'm like I need to get this done, or like I don't know.
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You're sensitive, yes, and you need to get things done.
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Get what done, yeah.
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What do you need to get done?
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Get stuff done.
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That's no, but like it feels.
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Is it one of your brothers that makes you upset and angry, to put you in a tantrum?
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Or is it your mom saying you have to obey and you're like I don't want to obey?
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What's the thing?
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It's both, but yeah, a lot of times it's my brothers, but yeah.
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But when you're saying I just have to get this done, I think you meant.
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Correct me if I'm wrong.
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But there are times when you would say I done I think you meant.
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Correct me if I'm wrong.
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But there are times when you would say like I feel like I just have to be mad, like I'm so I can't, oh, oh, so the have to get this done is not like, uh, I'm gonna put away the dishes.
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It's, it's I need to rage.
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Is that kind of?
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what happens?
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I guess so, but after then I'm like so sorry and I just, but now I am done so is that?
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uh, that's good.
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So you know, one of the fruits of the spirit is self-control.
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So do you feel like the fruit of the spirit of self-control is in you more now that you've received jesus as your savior?
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yes, there is this thing called thunder pause.
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Oh, talk to me about what.
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What's a thunder pause?
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so a thunder pause is when you know how the storm it gets like really, but then you count down.
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You mean like when you see the lightning.
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Yeah, and then the thunder.
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Then there's like a pause, one, two, uh-huh.
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So it's like there's a storm with your anger and you count, you take a deep breath for the lightning, I think, and then you count until, and then you do it a lot until you feel calmed down and ready to say what's right instead of just letting your anger fly.
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Okay, so how?
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So when let's say that you forget about the thunder pause, do your mom or dad they go, thunder pause, thunder pause, like.
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And you're like, oh yeah.
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Uh, no, no, it doesn't work.
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And you're like oh yeah, no, no, it doesn't work like that.
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I just Do you count for yourself.
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Yeah, you count in your head and then it really helps, because that's Mommy helps remind you of Thunderpaws, right?
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Oh yeah, sometimes, because that was from y'all's gentleness, it was a.
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Emotional or challenge.
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No, it's from a book, oh.
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But the Thunder Paws was today.
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It's like taking a deep breath.
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So was that today's lesson.
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It was also from a book they read maybe like a week or two ago, and it's called Thunder Paws.
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It's from the library.
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Oh, I love that.
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How often do you go to the library?
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Well, once a month, I think.
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But we also get these read-alouds that we read Like there's like the book reads to you.
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So we listen to those every night and they help us fall asleep.
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So we don't go that often anymore, only if we get bored of the read-aloud books and we want new ones.
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Yeah, okay, so talk to me now.
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So in the morning you do a devotional, Is it devotional with your dad?
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I think it's.
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No, it's with my mom.
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I think it's not a devotional, I think it's like a challenge.
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It's called the gentleness challenge.
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Okay, so all right, hold on.
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So a 30 day gentleness challenge?
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Water over your head and go like I'm a big shot, and then you go and be gentle to people.
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No, oh, what do you do for a gentlest challenge?
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My mom reads it from her phone, so there's verses and then it goes.
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Someone wait, someone goes wait.
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Oh, you're trying to remember the verse.
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Give me the general gist of the verse.
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So um they just read a verse off of this.
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There's someone who writes it that has 10 children.
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What 10 children?
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Yeah, and she just writes about things that can help you.
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One of them was don't let your anger fly, or just think of a verse like kindness and calm, so you think of that while you're doing that and then it helps you.
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So you go, like you get angry, you go.
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Love is patient, love is kind.
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Love is patient, love is kind.
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I'm ready.
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Is that it?
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I think you're getting all the things wrong?
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No, is that not what you're doing?
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Oh, sorry, Okay.
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No, is that not what you do?
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Oh, sorry, okay.
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So you, I'm just trying to figure out how, in the gentleness challenge, how do you move from the I'm about ready to rage to like I'm ready to have a conversation, like that's the, but what I'm trying to see?
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The dozens, the listeners all over the globe are wanting to know, lizzie, how do you get to a place of self-control by the power of the Holy Spirit from a place of anger and rage.
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So you say that to yourself, do you like?
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What's the process?
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Well, I don't, Well some.
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Let me think of something Well.
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You did a thunder pause like yesterday or something right?
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Didn't you get mad and you stepped away, went to your room.
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Yeah, I didn't you get mad and you you stepped away, went to your room, or I did.
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You declare like thunder pause.
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And then you like leave.
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No, okay, go ahead.
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What do you do?
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Because that would be kind of cool.
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I could like to be an action show and, like you know, like a christian action show.
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Like you have this family're really angry and all of a sudden he goes Thunder Paws and then he walks away, calms down, and then he comes back, says I'm ready, because you get it like a thunder clap.
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You should try that next time, all right.
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So the Thunder Paws happens.
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You don't say Thunder Paws.
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No, because when you're, when you're angry, it's hard to like get excited or be like really funny.
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Yeah, because you're like really in the zone it's called being emotionally flooded.
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When you're filled up with all these emotions, you have a tendency to fight, flight, freeze or fake.
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Those are the big four f's.
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What you do.
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What is your tendency?
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To fight or flight?
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Well, I think flight, because I would, just I would I used to just like not let it go and I would just like I need to do this, I need to get it done.
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Yeah, fight that's more.
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Fight, yes, raging yeah.
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But I used to do that.
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But now I'm like I I learned the thunder pause, so I'm doing the thunder pause and I feel calm and I walk away because it takes.
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And then I think of what to say nice and then I go back and I say like that hurt my feelings or or.
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This is an example.
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So I did the Thunderpaws today because Ethan took one of my Lego pieces and I took a Thunderpaws because I was getting really mad and I thought of what to say.
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But I didn't leave because I thought of what to say and I said Ethan, could you please give this back?
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And he wouldn't listen.
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So I tried one more time and I said it really calm.
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Then I went to mom and I said could you please help?
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And she said yes, and then Owen also helped.
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He found some more Lego pieces and we made a trade and yeah, and I got my Lego pieces back and everything was fine wow, that's amazing.
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Okay, that's incredible.
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